Comments on: The documents on U.S. proposal for CW tests in Australia http://bugsngasgal.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/the-documents-on-us-proposal-for-cw-tests-in-australia/ Biological & chemical weapons and disease topics, with a smattering of technology, political rant, and everyday life thrown in. Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:13:58 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Proliferating Thoughts » Blog Archive » US CW Testing in Oz http://bugsngasgal.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/the-documents-on-us-proposal-for-cw-tests-in-australia/#comment-48389 Proliferating Thoughts » Blog Archive » US CW Testing in Oz Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:29:45 +0000 http://bugsngasgal.wordpress.com/?p=444#comment-48389 [...] in this area and I would like to thank Bugs n’ Gas Gal for posting links to several rather large bundles of declassified documents in the Australian National [...] [...] in this area and I would like to thank Bugs n’ Gas Gal for posting links to several rather large bundles of declassified documents in the Australian National [...]

]]> By: BGG http://bugsngasgal.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/the-documents-on-us-proposal-for-cw-tests-in-australia/#comment-48350 BGG Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:23:39 +0000 http://bugsngasgal.wordpress.com/?p=444#comment-48350 Heh - I didn't have time to read them in depth this morning but I figured I could count on you to go through it in painstaking detail before lunch! I look forward to your thorough analysis, which I'm sure will be forthcoming :) Heh – I didn’t have time to read them in depth this morning but I figured I could count on you to go through it in painstaking detail before lunch! I look forward to your thorough analysis, which I’m sure will be forthcoming :)

]]> By: Jason http://bugsngasgal.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/the-documents-on-us-proposal-for-cw-tests-in-australia/#comment-48348 Jason Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:36:40 +0000 http://bugsngasgal.wordpress.com/?p=444#comment-48348 This really is a fascinating set of documents, with the involvement of McNamara and Rusk during the Nam conflict. Pity our govt isn't as open about old DPG stories. I would suggest that your one statement is not quite accurate - if I read this correctly, the ABCA Quadripartate agreement was already in effect, and the US govt msg was "you know, this request for joint testing is in line with the ABCA... so how about it, partner?" I have to look at these further, but I think that there were two tests proposed - a met test using simulants and a "toxic" test to determine agent characteristics. I would also suggest that the AUS papers have it wrong saying that the plan was to "test CB pro gear" by spraying the AUS troops. I think the 70 people mentioned in the survey team report were support personnel who would be conducting the test, not test subjects per say. Still, fascinating stuff. Will have to dig around for more background data (in particular the Chem Corps generals mentioned). This really is a fascinating set of documents, with the involvement of McNamara and Rusk during the Nam conflict. Pity our govt isn’t as open about old DPG stories. I would suggest that your one statement is not quite accurate – if I read this correctly, the ABCA Quadripartate agreement was already in effect, and the US govt msg was “you know, this request for joint testing is in line with the ABCA… so how about it, partner?”

I have to look at these further, but I think that there were two tests proposed – a met test using simulants and a “toxic” test to determine agent characteristics. I would also suggest that the AUS papers have it wrong saying that the plan was to “test CB pro gear” by spraying the AUS troops. I think the 70 people mentioned in the survey team report were support personnel who would be conducting the test, not test subjects per say.

Still, fascinating stuff. Will have to dig around for more background data (in particular the Chem Corps generals mentioned).

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